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Fade vs Richard
by Cactus/Oxyron/Padua

Guest starring: Fade/Onslaught and Richard/Hokuto Force/People of Liberty/Protovision/Civitas

FADE

This is a question long plagued by various sceners, what do I think of the almighty Richard Bayliss? Well, my first impressions were somewhere along the lines of a green skinned midget wearing a bikini riding around town on a mono-cycle. There are many misconceptions about Richard and I, first of all I don't really hate the guy, yet I can't say that I like him. I've never really had the chance to talk to him, even at this present moment in time, I have only shared public banter with him.

But as many members of the scene know, I spend some time on irc talking inane chatter, mostly occuring around the lower points of the human body. I know it's not really a pleasant thought, but it is highly amusing once you are able to distance yourself from it actually taking place. Down here in Australia, it is obvious we do things differently from Europeans. Laughter and Sarcasm are tools we use with great delight, telling someone that something they did sucked when it actually doesn't is another way for us to say "Hey, that's great". It might be hard for some to understand but it really does add a lot more diversity to speaking to someone.

As for Richard's releases I must say that they are well, similar. Seeing a movie twenty or thirty times over a short span of time grates your mind with an absolute numbness and pain. This is the same as Richard's games, they all revolve around the same single screen shoot/dodge 'em style. I know Richard can do better, his part for the second Singles Collection is testiment to this statement.

For a comparison between myself and Richard, we are similar in aspects. Between my first picture since my scene return and most recent released at the North Party 8, there is a common style/format of my pictures, but there is a difference between each one. Which I think Richard doesn't have in his games. Also by saying this, i'm not saying I am better than Richard, but Richard does need to find his "groove", his own style and keep each release fresh.

Now after all that, I must be fair and say that Richard's strongest point is his music. There is a very decent flow and sound to his music, by listening to one of his tunes you can tell he is on the verge of finding that one little thing to seperate him from his game creating past and shoot him up into the brink of sunshine.

In essence of all this text it is only just to say that Richard is a very easy target for other sceners, he's fairly new to the scene as a whole and is only just starting to understand that ragging and abuse is common for sceners to do to each other. Since there is no real competition anymore the abuse seems more prominent than before, most of the scene still holds the days of old close in our hearts. Realising that it isn't 1989 anymore but it doesn't mean we can't try and rekindle some of those flames.

So to end it all, I don't hate Richard, never have and never will. The only common link that we have is reminissant of school. Me being of the class clown and Richard, the class nerd. I am picking on everyone but taking special care of Richard.

RICHARD

I really dislike Urine, because they had ruined my game release "Bomb Chase", by creating a first release of the BETA version and also using some horrible language about me. Urine always been taking the piss out of me. If I remember right, I saw the Urine crack of the BETA "Bomb Chase" and it said that the game was written by "That Shit Fuck in TND". I wasn't very amused one bit.

That wasn't all. To make matters worse, I released the proper version of "Bomb Chase" and announced that Excess had first released the correct version of the game, and Urine tried to upload a newer crack of the game, but this time Urine uploaded a *fake* Excess crack. The intro said "The Excess Posse strike again. 'Bomb Chase' was raped, trained and first released by RICHARD" and the slogan was changed from "Excess - More than you Deserve" to "BaYlIsS - MoRe yOu cAn StAnD", therefore war broke out between myself and Urine. I knew that because Rumpleforeskin/Urine always uses "AB Cruncher" and "Sledgehammer" combined together.

I think Urine sucks because they cannot even be asked to train games, or make some bug fixes or repacking. They just do a crappy intro-link on my games, using the same old intro screen (do they not have any more of these). Urine sucks loads and loads. They are big fat hairy lamers with used condoms stuck on their heads. I think we all should piss on them. :)

And the discussion begins... All threads below...

Richard: I really dislike Urine, because they had ruined my game release "Bomb Chase", by creating a first release of the BETA version and also using some horrible language about me. Urine always been taking the piss out of me. If I remember right, I saw the Urine crack of the BETA "Bomb Chase" and it said that the game was written by "That Shit Fuck in TND". I wasn't very amused one bit.

Fade: Still blaming me for Urine. Urine was around when I was inactive, let it go. I will admit to using fake labels before (Tightly Shafted Ringhole and Uncle Mitzo's Yeeros Shoppe) but these were never spread to a majority of people, more so to poke some fun at people I was at war with. If I as an Australian were to make a fake label against you, an English person, it would be more like the label names would be Australia 3 - England 1, Brush Your Teeth, Grange Hill CrackTeam, Spotted Dick All Stars, Banging Your Mash, The English Cricket Squad, It never rains in UK, Wanna Be European Team or perhaps Zenith...

Richard: I think I might as well let it go. They are lamers after all, and they don't really have the guts to crack/release a game properly, protection or no protection.

How dare you insult us English people.

As for your fucking fake group ideas. How fucking lame. :)

Fade: Chances are you don't know who TSR were, so yes for you fucking lame. For me, fucking brilliant.

.end of thread

Richard: That wasn't all. To make matters worse, I released the proper version of "Bomb Chase" and announced that Excess had first released the correct version of the game, and Urine tried to upload a newer crack of the game, but this time Urine uploaded a *fake* Excess crack. The intro said "The Excess Posse strike again. 'Bomb Chase' was raped, trained and first released by RICHARD" and the slogan was changed from "Excess - More than you Deserve" to "BaYlIsS - MoRe yOu cAn StAnD", therefore war broke out between myself and Urine. I knew that because Rumpleforeskin/Urine always uses "AB Cruncher" and "Sledgehammer" combined together.

Fade: Okay, just for the matter of shamelessly plugging the two best (and Australian) data ninja utilities around, I always use "Beeftrucker" and the "R+L Krewler". Your so uptight about your games being beaten by crackers, why not pick on Triad for 102% fixing "Capture 2". At least you know who they are... I must admit though, that is an awfully funny slogan.

Richard: It appeared that Jazzcat was rumpleforeskin, but I have a doubt that he was being GW Hussain, because of the tools that were used, so perhaps someone just wanted to take the piss out of my work, and just urinate on my game. I won't have it.

I use "AB Cruncher" myself, and "Sledgehammer II", but I tend to use other packers. And why should I pick on Triad? At least those people were not taking the piss out of me or calling me nasty names. Triad know what they're doing. Urine don't.

Any future releases of my game by Urine will score nil points, because I will come up with a battle plan, which is to make a better version of it and send it to my friends to first release. Now let's see who has the last laugh.

Fade: Attention... Forward march... Good on ya mum, tip top's the one... [Australian Advert for English Muffin's]

.end of thread

Richard: I think Urine sucks because they cannot even be asked to train games, or make some bug fixes or repacking. They just do a crappy intro-link on my games, using the same old intro screen (do they not have any more of these). Urine sucks loads and loads. They are big fat hairy lamers with used condoms stuck on their heads. I think we all should piss on them. :)

Fade: Dude, you are sooooo missing the point behind a fake label. If you look at that ware you used the "protection" on, you will notice Urine beat your protection, making it possible for some who use lame carts able to actually play your game. Once again I thank IRC for this knowledge.

Richard: To my POV, fake labels are shite! I don't see the point in it, unless it is just for fun. Taking the piss out of another person is plain stupid, pathetic and bullying, unless it wasn't meant to be that nasty.

Fade: Hehehe, but how many fake labels have you used... :)

.end of thread

Fade: What do I think of the almighty Richard Bayliss? Well, my first impressions were somewhere along the lines of a green skinned midget wearing a bikini riding around town on a mono-cycle.

Richard: What do I think of that lamer, Fade? Well my first impressions were where he was from another planet, far from the galaxy - in fact too far. I bet he speaks "Fart" for some reason. He's acting as if a mothership being blasted by a tank and the world being took over by those legendary space invaders. ;)

Fade: I love Bayliss, I speak Fart. Another lack lustre attempt at puppetry of the ever ruling.

Richard: New Onslaught slogan, instead of "We win again", change to "We fart again!"

Fade: Must... Stop... Eating... Lamers...

.end of thread

Fade: As for Richard's releases I must say that they are similar. Seeing a movie twenty or thirty times over a short span of time grates your mind with an absolute numbness and pain. This is the same as Richard's games.

Richard: Looking at Fade's releases and commentry, his releases seem to be more samey, with comparison to my mega, hot, super duper ruling games for the C64. All he seems to do is art or fart. :) Maybe Fade should have a go at doing games, if they good, I leave them alone, if they crap, Da Laxatives gets another release. :)

Fade: Why would I want to code a game for? If you want a multiplexor source just let me know. I'm sure TMR will gladly give you his and he doesn't even expect to be credited!

Richard: Ha, I see you're scared that I would do a first release under DaLaxatives, aren't you?

Fade: Yes

.end of thread

Fade: For a comparison between myself and Richard. Between my first picture and most recent there is a common style/format of my pictures, but there is a difference between each one. Which I think Richard doesn't have in his games.

Richard: How should I compare myself to Fade/Onslaught? Well for a start off, I don't wear a tight green bikini and I don't even drive a moped. Flippin' heck I'm no cross-dresser. Fade is a kinda good artist, and I can't draw. You may have noticed some fake game preview I did called "Ejec 'A Race" as PBCA productions, eh? I am more sexier than him, and more attractive to the girls (come to me angels). Oops, I think I gone a bit too far.

Fade: Some more ever ruling puppetry. I'd swear there is a Bayliss army of puppets trying and trying and trying. Sorry I haven't seen this "Ejec 'A Race". I do collect warez but this has mysteriously passed my grasp, oh the shame.

Richard: "Ejec 'A Race" was released by Aldi. Good food, good bargains. :)

Fade: Yes. Aldi are making some shopping revolutions here in OZ. Great to hear they breaking such innovative markets like the 64.

.end of thread

Fade: So to end it all, I don't hate Richard, never have and never will. The only common link that we have is reminissant of school. Me being of the class clown and Richard, the class nerd. I am picking on everyone but taking special care of Richard.

Richard: To tell you the truth, I don't think Fade is all that bad, it is probably just myself taking the scene thing too seriously. Especially when Urine had been doing releases of my games as lamer quality. I also accused Fade as G.W.Hussain of Urine, after I saw a posting on c64.sk. It appears after all, that the main person, who probably was causing trouble for the scene was myself. Maybe that was the main reason how Fade attacked some of my messages.

Fade: Fuck'em if they can't take a joke.

Richard: I can take a joke. :)

Fade: No, you can't. :)

Q: What do you call all of Richard's source code stored on CD?
A: Windows Update.

.end of thread

Richard: To make true facts, I am really a very nice person, I have been helping produce music for other people, enhancing SEUCK games and supplying freeware C64 programs, which people needed, such as the DMC player. I also help support the game authors by uploading their games on to my web site. I could just say that I am a lonely person, in real life, but I do have good friends outside the scene. :)

Fade: I have no doubt you are a very nice person Richard, probably the kind of guy who enjoys giving people really really long hugs with a handfull of boiled lollies. Shouldn't you be posting in a web forum about now? With your superior good looks, knowledge and wisdom bla bla.. I wrote you a poem, just because you are that much fun to read.

On Christmas Day
I will send you a gay
because you like it that way
on your birthday

Richard: No thanks. No gays for me. :) I'll pop you a lollipop in the post. :)

Fade: I can't comment on this due to international censorship laws.

.end of thread

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